G. Gerlach: la montre polonaise!

Et à tes heures perdues tu ne jouerais pas au futebol à la Seleção Brasileira ?????

voila j'ai enfin recupéré ma tokkotai tout est rentré dans l'ordre      

Je n'ose pas vous demander à quel point en est le projet Auroch ?

Par contre , ça c'est beau ...Mais encore un ( looooong ) projet !

( j'edit : elle est en vente   )


crédit Gerlach

Elle est tellement disponible (en version inox) que je l'ai au poignet en ce moment...

thury a écrit:Elle est tellement disponible (en version inox) que je l'ai au poignet en ce moment...

  
Un petit retour dessus ?

sur la photo, elle paraît épaisse !

Petit retour sur la PZL P50 Gerlach, sans revenir sur le descriptif technique qui est sur leur site ...
La PZL P50 se présente avec une petite seconde et un indicateur de réserve de marche. Comme d'habitude chez Gerlach le cadran et les aiguilles sont remarquables, tant du point de vue du design que de la réalisation. L'ensemble est recouvert par un beau saphir légèrement bombé. La couronne finie satin conne le boitier est siglée et sa forme est agréable à prendre entre les doigts. La gravure du dos est précise, chacun ayant ses raisons d'apprécier - ou non - le choix du thème. Je pense que tout cela fera l'unanimité (ou presque) chez les acheteurs et les candidats à l'achat.
Au niveau des choix plus discutables, le boitier conserve la forme cylindrique épaisse chère à la marque (voir les ORP, Batory, RWD6, P24). Le résultat est une montre très raisonnable en diamètre mais qui parait très épaisse au poignet. Certes, il ne s'agit pas d'un mouvement à quartz ultra plat, mais on peut comparer avec le boitier 420 de Vostok (chef d'oeuvre du design bien connu) qui semble mince à côté grâce à son fond tronc conique et à son verre très bombé qui permettent de loger l'épaisseur du mouvement au centre du boitier tout en donnant l'impression d'une montre plus fine sur les bords. Il va falloir que j'essaye mais un bracelet plus épais et nettement bombé atténuerait peut-être cette impression d'épaisseur du côté de l'entrecornes où il me semble le plus gênant. L'affichage de la réserve de marche est contre-intuitif (plein à gauche, vide à droite) mais ce n'est pas bien grave et on peut supposer que celà a été pensé pour assurer le développement de Gerlach sur le marché anglais.
Côté fonctionnement, j'ai toujours été agréablement surpris par la précision des Gerlach que j'ai reçues (+5 à 7 s/jour pour l'instant). Seule réserve (mineure, très personnelle et que j'aurais également pour des montres plus chères comme les Seiko Sumo entre autres) l'impression un peu floue au vissage de la couronne (on se demande toujours un peu si on est bien dans le filet, en train de le foirer ou complètement en dehors en train de remonter le mouvement, même en commençant à contre-sens pour positionner les filetages correctement). Pour reprendre la comparaison avec Vostok, le vissage de la couronne des luxueuses Amphibia semble plus positif.
En conclusion, les réserves ci-dessus étant à relativiser, une belle et bonne montre, sympathique, à un prix contenu. Il faudra toutefois étudier le choix du bracelet sur le plan de la forme plus encore que sur celui de la couleur ou de la texture.

simke a écrit:Je n'ose pas vous demander à quel point en est le projet Auroch ? [...]

Y en a qu'on essayé : y z'ont eu des problèèèèmes !


Plus sérieusement ça me gonfle tellement que je suis à deux doigts de décommander.

Chronotopos a écrit:

simke a écrit:

Plus sérieusement ça me gonfle tellement que je suis à deux doigts de décommander.

Idem
Ça fait plus d'un an et cela manque de sérieux

Quel dommage, je trouve ce bullhead rouge vraiment très beau !
La souscription était à quel montant?

1500 PLN (= 358.229 € au taux du jour)
Mais seul le premier versement, pour la réservation, a été réclamé.

Spoiler:

Pour la Navigator aussi, bientôt un an de délai...

Bonjour mes amis,

Sorry for a delay with informing you, but Summer season is always a bit lazy

Anyway, here is the Navigator - finally ready. Shipping all the pre-orders now, and will be on track wiuth regular deliveries in few days











This project took us almost 2.5 year, and we made 3 different watches solving all things - but I belive that result was worth to wait :-)

Next on line is Aurochs, for those of you who are lined up - keep the euros tight

Beautiful... Really, really beautiful ! Awesome patina on a modern watch... Gongrats for this watch !

simke a écrit:Beautiful...  Really,  really beautiful ! Awesome patina on a modern watch...  Gongrats for this watch !

We made this dial&hands three times only to have it vintage enough at the end
Biggest problem was to combine three different processed for dial, hands and ring, and have just same lume effect on different surface ... One of the reasons it was delayed for so long.

Wonderful watch Chris! I was really in to that watch, but sorry to say I didn't buy one since we had no news from the project Auroch and I had to keep my money. But it is such a nice watch! Maybe I'll buy one after I have my Gerlach chronograph.

Krzysztof a écrit:Wonderful watch Chris! I was really in to that watch, but sorry to say I didn't buy one since we had no news from the project Auroch and I had to keep my money. But it is such a nice watch! Maybe I'll buy one after I have my Gerlach chronograph.

Should be soon

Oh yeah!

Krzysztof a écrit:Oh yeah!

Project is extreamly complicated - and some things just appeared at the end

When we have it already in production - there was an issue with chrono second hand. If pushed a bit more on axle, it turned to scratch the ring. If was assembled a bit higher, it could touch the glass bottom And obviously could have some troubles while in transport.

We had already 50 pcs assembled, winded, and in testing to find it out...
So ... disassembling .. making new rings for some of them - as the old ones gets scratches - and serious thinking how to deal with glass ...
Only way was to change it, and change a technology of assembling it into a case. The previous was a standard V-ring silicone seal type, that is tested&proven. Now we had to add a small distance ring, and to be sure that case will keep WR100, we had to use a special glass glue around to seal it. This technique is not in use for some time now, because is more complicated&slightly more expensive. But there was no other choice then that
Now we have it out of the head, cases are solved, now waiting for it's delivery and we can take a final lap.

Wow, that was such a mess, just for a bit too long second hand... Thanks for the news Chris. It is very appreciated.

I would like to give you just a little tip for the future. We are a lot in this forum to have subscribed to the Auroch project. We all understand that trouble can pop up frequently on a watch project, and we really don't mind it. It's fine that it took a long time as well... as soon as you communicate about it! A lot of people were complaining that we had no news, and some were even thinking to cancel the subscribtion and didn't want to buy any other G. Gerlach watches. I don't think they did it, but anyway, it could be avoided just by sending some work in progress informations once a while, by e-mail, or facebook, or any other mean. At least people would understand better why it took so long, and by following the project, people would feel more implicated. It is always an exciting adventure to follow the "birth" of a new watch model. G Gerlach are obviously watches for watch enthousiast.

Anyway, it's all fine, now we know a bit more. We are all very excited, and we can't wait to see the final pictures! Thanks Chris!

Krzysztof a écrit:Wow, that was such a mess, just for a bit too long second hand... Thanks for the news Chris. It is very appreciated.

I would like to give you just a little tip for the future. We are a lot in this forum to have subscribed to the Auroch project. We all understand that trouble can pop up frequently on a watch project, and we really don't mind it. It's fine that it took a long time as well... as soon as you communicate about it! A lot of people were complaining that we had no news, and some were even thinking to cancel the subscribtion and didn't want to buy any other G. Gerlach watches. I don't think they did it, but anyway, it could be avoided just by sending some work in progress informations once a while, by e-mail, or facebook, or any other mean. At least people would understand better why it took so long, and by following the project, people would feel more implicated. It is always an exciting adventure to follow the "birth" of a new watch model. G Gerlach are obviously watches for watch enthousiast.

Anyway, it's all fine, now we know a bit more. We are all very excited, and we can't wait to see the final pictures! Thanks Chris!

A fair criticism!
Sorry lads, but we are a small company. We experience more with each next project.
We do communicate on our social media about each project - but I am affraid it does not reach french speeking part of you :-(
I wil do my best to improve it in future, or made some first hand contact to someone who can help here
Keep in mind, that Aurochs is a project made from a first line - this all things, parts and technology - must be made just after.
A brand that does not produce a watches, only orders them from a factory in China - are in a real advantage here ...
It's not their problem. Just a happy selling!
It starts to be a problem only after, when claim ratio sky rockets to 40%
And they can not provide any after sale service, other than replace a faulty piece for another ...
What a brillinat idea !
It is our's job&deal - we can only check things, live, after we have a parts, can test them, etc.
It takes time, and sometimes it backs a project 2 steps behind.
This is why we covered most of the project cost, not asking for any more payments - it takes long, needs several changes ... It's our job&risk.
But once we are done - we are done. And you have a finished product.
It is fair I belive.

pour vous rassurer elle fonctionne encore

Magnifique Kami!

Du coup, malgré ce gros problème avec la couronne, aujourd'hui, tu en es content?

trés honnettement il arrive une fois sur 10 que la couronne me joue des tours mais dans l'ensemble cela fonctionne le fun et le plaisir est là elle a de la gueule cette montre ainsi c'est agreable d'avoir une montre de pilote autre choses que de l'allemand oui je suis content

je pense que Gerlach a un potentiel fort

Banzaï!